Beers with Talos Podcast
Beers with Talos Podcast
Beers with Talos Podcast·Oct 23, 2026·1h 6m

The Guy Who Invented Pain

Show notes

David Bianco built the Pyramid of Pain, so we offered him some more. David joins the crew for a conversation how AI changes about his famous model, how EvidenceForge creates simulated incidents for research and training, and why his red-team entrance exam didn’t go to plan. 

First, we discuss the newly disclosed PHP vulnerabilities and the potential impact there (we recorded this on day 1 of the disclosure, hence expediting the release of this episode from its normal release schedule). Later, David’s decades of experience are put to work helping Hazel hack a fictional smart toilet company. 

Here's the Talos advisory about the PHP vulnerabilities https://blog.talosintelligence.com/two-critical-rces-in-php-core/